Okay, this is the third time in the past hour I've tried to reply to this, but I keep getting told to get off the computer and come downstairs, so I'll try to make this short, for my sake and yours.
First of all, Lock brought up a good percentage of the points that came to my mind, and very well, I might add, but I still feel the need to add my two cents, so I'll just briefly touch on a few subjects.
Please bear with me, as I am quite mentally exhausted at the moment.
Okay, point one: Collar, this is not going towards becoming a flame war in any way, shape, or form. We're not sitting here saying, "wow lewk at that tard collar. she likes obawma. I HATE YOO." We're simply, politely sharing our opinions. I actually think this as been quite mature. I mean, it's not going to be on national television or anything, and I'm sure we're going to slip up and make mistakes, but it's going quite well right now. We're on a nintendogs forum for goodness sakes. And it is good to have a political discussion--a lot of us are going to be voting by the time the next presidential election rolls around. I was listening to an old podcast of a radio program just a few hours ago actually, and although he was talking about something completely different, the concept still applies. The world today is saying that everyone is sooo intolerant. The dividing line between intolerant and tolerant is not whether or not agree. It's how we act upon that. I can disagree with you and think that you're wrong. Am I be intolerant? No. It's my belief, and I have as much of right to it as you do to yours. It's OK to say someone is wrong! Now if I start throwing punches because I disagree with you, I've crossed the line. So everyone's doing well on that point so far. =)
Point two-distribution of the wealth: Socialism doesn't work. Just one of many examples: In the 1800's, there was a community called "Brook Farm" in Massachusetts. Brook Farm was socialist. All the goods produced were shared equally among the inhabitants. People lost intentive to work, since they were getting their goods anyway. Brook Farm ran out of funding after only five years. It seems as if you're thinking, correct me if I'm wrong, "Hey, the wealthy have the extra money, why not give them extra taxes?" The wealthy worked for it. And the lower class citizens who haven't worked, (I am not saying that the whole lower class hasn't worked, I'm simply referring to those who haven't.) shouldn't get money earned by someone else. I know that sometimes families are working, and life is still tough, (believe me, I know very well.) but that doesn't mean that they should turn to the government to give them money. The pilgrims came to this country and worked from almost nothing, and eventually we got a republic; we got a capitalist economy; we got a money sytem; the list goes on. It wasn't easy; they didn't see immediate results, but they worked for it. They didn't get it handed to them by the government on a silver platter. Which brings me to
Point three: I think that we're becoming much too dependant on the government. What happened to the American dream of a self-made man? I frankly think the government needs to downsize, get back to the Constitution. (+a few ammendments such as the ones that grant suffrage to blacks and women)
I'd really like to get into this more, but I'm beat; I'm going to bed.
Rotty, very well-said. Let's see how well I can supplement that.
I'm not quite sure how supported this argument is-- McCain only wants to work on the rich? What?
Read this. It's a story from my sister's friend's friend (yes, f'sho).
"Today on my way to lunch I passed a homeless guy with a sign that read 'Vote Obama, I need the money.' I laughed.
Once in the restaurant my server had on a 'Obama 08' tie, again I laughed as he had given away his political preference -- just imagine the coincidence.
When the bill came I decided not to tip the server and explained to him that I was exploring the Obama redistribution of wealth concept. He stood there in disbelief while I told him that I was going to redistribute his tip to someone who I deemed more in need--the homeless guy outside. The server angrily stormed from my sight.
I went outside, gave the homeless guy $5 and told him to thank the server inside as I've decided he could use the money more. The homeless guy was grateful.
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
I guess redistribution of wealth is an easier thing to swallow in concept than in practical application."
It sounds great and all, spreading the wealth, I mean, but in reality it's unfair. Person A worked hard, worked long hours, and finally got their small business up and running. Whaddaya know? The hard work paid off! America was founded on the idea that hard work yields boatloads. Sadly, in my view, Obama's plan just shows that some people can always count on the government for a handout (some, not all). Person A is suddenly burdened with even more taxes to cover people, some of which who don't even try to make a good living for themselves (some).
At the end of my rather unscientific redistribution experiment I realized the homeless guy was grateful for the money he did not earn, but the waiter was pretty angry that I gave away the money he did earn even though the actual recipient deserved money more.
Sounds great on paper, but how I view it, that's as far as it goes.
The part I'm mad about is that people were saying that people for Obama don't have a "good brain" and stuff like that. Just reminding you all why I got upset in the first place.
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It's June 2019. I came back to delete my signature of Ryan Ross doing cocaine (not that I am the one who put it there).
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Funny how Obama's all about change but yet the people he's most likely going to pick (for his cabinet) were in the Clinton era. Lotsa change ! A whole lotta good they did.